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    What aldl cable to use for EEHack and 1997 Camaro,

    What aldl USB cable to use for EEHack to my 1997 Camaro and where to get one? I'm looking in the wrong places. Thanks.
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    The 1997 LT1 is OBD2.

    EEHack is for the 1994 - 1995 LT1, which is OBD1.

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    '96 & '97 OBD2 LT1 is one of the redheaded bastard stepchildren of the GM tuning world.
    If you can legally get away with converting to OBD1 LT1 (16188051), do so.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LeMarky Dissod View Post
    '96 & '97 OBD2 LT1 is one of the redheaded bastard stepchildren of the GM tuning world.What'd you call me
    If you can legally get away with converting to OBD1 LT1 (16188051), do so.
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    That explains a few things.

    What do I use for data logging?

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    https://www.obdlink.com/
    I use the usb SX version for all my weird stuff cuz I'm a cord kinda guy, for obd2 stuff that I don't already have. It's cheap and universal.
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    There is always Tunercat OBD2 if you can find someone selling one. Or if you are a baller it is still available through Moates but you have to buy a Roadrunner PCM too. I guess I should mention Jet Dynamic Spectrum Tuner which is the red headed stepchild of Tunercat OBD2 with no support so I hear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2xls1 View Post
    There is always Tunercat OBD2 if you can find someone selling one. Or if you are a baller it is still available through Moates but you have to buy a Roadrunner PCM too. I guess I should mention Jet Dynamic Spectrum Tuner which is the red headed stepchild of Tunercat OBD2 with no support so I hear.


    Shoot, does JET even sell it anymore? Man it sucks John(TC) is contractually involved with Bryant(Owner/President JET) nowadays. Bryant is a good dude, maybe call him at JET and see if you can buy some current stuff for tuning. You asked about watching data and that link I posted is a pretty good software piece at a good price thru amazon or ebay.
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    there are definitely a few dataloggers for obd-2 out there, but i haven't really found a good one myself. you can use tunerpro for logging with ELM but i hear it's pretty bad. i do plan to write an obd-ii datalogger one when i have spare time, but by then everyone will be driving electric flying fusion cars that use obd-24 so i wont have any users

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    Quote Originally Posted by In-Tech View Post


    Shoot, does JET even sell it anymore?
    It's available at Summit for $400. Probably other places too.

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    I have the JET DST but it dosent data log.

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    Quote Originally Posted by _LT1 View Post
    I have the JET DST but it dosent data log.
    You've gotta be kidding me. $400 and it can't log data? For real? All it does is download/edit/flash BINs?

    I get that the 96/97 LTx PCM is a one-off and all but it sucks there's no FOSS alternative to JET.
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    Tunercat OBD2 didn't datalog either. JET DST is basically TC OBD2 with different vehicle licensing and support.

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    Quote Originally Posted by In-Tech View Post
    Shoot, does JET even sell it anymore?
    Man it sucks John(TC) is contractually involved with Bryant(Owner/President JET) nowadays. Bryant is a good dude, maybe call him at JET and see if you can buy some current stuff for tuning.
    https://support.moates.net/gm-tunercat-obd2-tuner/
    Specifically:
    "TunerCat OBD2 Tuner is a software package that allows tuning of 96-current GM vehicles. For some early 96-97 vehicles, it is often the only solution. TunerCat OBD2 Tuner must be purchased with our RoadRunner hardware (either with a complete RoadRunner ECM or just a RoadRunner Guts kit) due to licensing restrictions."

    Is buying TunerCAT OBD2 from Moates no longer a viable option? (If not, then why is this link still active?)

    That said, steveo has provided several tools which make the OBD1 conversion VERY appealing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LeMarky Dissod View Post
    https://support.moates.net/gm-tunercat-obd2-tuner/
    Specifically:
    "TunerCat OBD2 Tuner is a software package that allows tuning of 96-current GM vehicles. For some early 96-97 vehicles, it is often the only solution. TunerCat OBD2 Tuner must be purchased with our RoadRunner hardware (either with a complete RoadRunner ECM or just a RoadRunner Guts kit) due to licensing restrictions."

    Is buying TunerCAT OBD2 from Moates no longer a viable option? (If not, then why is this link still active?)

    That said, steveo has provided several tools which make the OBD1 conversion VERY appealing.
    Hello,
    To me it's a mess what has happened in the aftermarket for tuning early obd2 stuff, especially the LT and "black boxes" vortec sbc and bbc stuff. Back in the day we used to do alot of 94-95 swaps into the obd2 cars, it's not the right way now that we know. :(
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