dave w Thank you for responding. I feel myself to be pretty salty on mechanical work and most other car related things. But after searching for information on the net and reading through some of the other post here I've realized that you all are speaking what seams to be a foreign language to me. Before I start posting much I'm going to do a deep dive into learning, new to me, names terms symbols and abbreviations. That and it seams like there are more than one name, nick name or abbreviation used for the same thing in some cases. That and I need to build a better relationship with this sites search feature so I don't go asking questions that have been asked and answered a hundred times in the last month or two.