Yea i always leave the key off for awhile, I even leave it on for a little before starting it. I had the high idle after going to park problem with other bins too, the only time I didn't have it is when my spark wasn't advanced far, don't kno if that would lead to figuring it out. What do you use to make your spark tables they look nice and smooth. Anyway I can have the cammed lopey sounding idle with this tune also? I aint had much time to do the data tracing and stuff much yet. Im thinking about getting the Ostrich so I can do things more quicker and easier.