Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast
Results 1 to 15 of 81

Thread: 1227747 to 16197427 Conversion PCM Swap with Wiring Pinout Directions!

Hybrid View

Previous Post Previous Post   Next Post Next Post
  1. #1
    Vintage Methane Ejector
    Join Date
    Apr 2011
    Posts
    194
    Got the new book in today, and F8 is the correct pin for the power steering switch. Also, fount out that B1 is for the DIS system used with the 2.2L. It is called the 1X Signal, and is used for ASDF (Alternate Synchronous Double Fire).

    Anyone ever find the VATS pin? I'll trade you the AC High Pressure Switch pin. This was used to raise the idle if the A/C pressure got too high (no bins that I know of with this active).
    Last edited by 93V8S10; 02-14-2012 at 06:13 AM.

  2. #2
    Fuel Injected! gregs78cam's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2011
    Location
    N. Idaho
    Posts
    767
    Sounds like that book has some good info in it. It there anything in there that could make sense of this trans datastream portion of the hac?

    Code:
    L53F3    FDB $0010      ; 11,  MALFFLG6, ERROR WD 6
                        ;
                        ; b7 1 = ERR 57. (not used)
                        ; b6 1 = ERR 58, XMISH TEMP HI
                        ; b5 1 = ERR 59, XMISH TEMP LOW
                        ; b4 1 = ERR 61, TURBO BOOST SENSOR HI
                        ;
                        ; b3 1 = ERR 62, TURBO BOOST SENSOR LOW
                        ; b2 1 = ERR 63, BARO SENSOR HI
                        ; b1 1 = ERR 64, BARO SENSOR LOW
                        ; b0 1 = ERR 65. (not used)
                        ;-----------------------------
    L53F5    FDB $001B      ; 12, CURMALF5, CURRENT ERROR WD 6
                        ;
                        ; b7 1 = ERR 57. (not used)
                        ; b6 1 = ERR 58, XMISH TEMP HI
                        ; b5 1 = ERR 59, XMISH TEMP LOW
                        ; b4 1 = ERR 61, TURBO BOOST SENSOR HI
                        ;
                        ; b3 1 = ERR 62, TURBO BOOST SENSOR LOW
                        ; b2 1 = ERR 63, BARO SENSOR HI
                        ; b1 1 = ERR 64, BARO SENSOR LOW
                        ; b0 1 = ERR 65. (not used)
                        ;-----------------------------
    I was thinking it might be something used in the diesel engine TCM.

    Can you shed any more info on any unlisted I/O pins?
    1978 Camaro Type LT, 383, Dual TBI, '7427, 4L80E
    1981 Camaro Z-28 Clone, T-Tops, 350/TH350
    1981 Camaro Berlinetta, V-6, 3spd
    1974 Chevy/GMC Truck, '90 TBI 350, '7427, TH350, NP203, 6" lift, 35s

  3. #3
    Vintage Methane Ejector
    Join Date
    Apr 2011
    Posts
    194
    Nothing about diesel engines, the new book is the S/T Driveability & Emissions Manual. I've woundered about those too.

    Here's what I've got so far:
    Attached Files Attached Files

  4. #4
    RIP EagleMark's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2011
    Location
    North Idaho
    Age
    64
    Posts
    10,477
    Looks like that transmission code was also used in a diesel application. Im my LT1 it is simalar to these PCM that it has engine data and transmission data although I have them in same adx, need to change connection and montitor. Transmission data also shows some engine data and all error codes.

    1990 Chevy Suburban 5.7L Auto ECM 1227747 $42!
    1998 Chevy Silverado 5.7L Vortec 0411 Swap to RoadRunner!
    -= =-

  5. #5
    RIP EagleMark's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2011
    Location
    North Idaho
    Age
    64
    Posts
    10,477
    Quote Originally Posted by 93V8S10 View Post
    Also, found out that B1 is for the DIS system used with the 2.2L. It is called the 1X Signal, and is used for ASDF (Alternate Synchronous Double Fire).
    So when is the DIS hac coming out for V8?

    1990 Chevy Suburban 5.7L Auto ECM 1227747 $42!
    1998 Chevy Silverado 5.7L Vortec 0411 Swap to RoadRunner!
    -= =-

  6. #6
    Fuel Injected! JeepsAndGuns's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2011
    Location
    alabama
    Age
    41
    Posts
    1,705
    Quote Originally Posted by EagleMark View Post
    So when is the DIS hac coming out for V8?
    I havent forgotten or abandoned the northstar DIS we talked about a couple months ago. Once I get my MPFI installed and tuned, DIS comes next.
    So I'm intrested in DIS info too.
    79 Jeep Cherokee, AMC 401, T-18 manual trans, hydroboost, 16197427 MPFI system---the toy

    93 Jeep YJ Wrangler, 4.0L, 5 speed, 8.8 rear, homebrew hub conversion and big brakes, hydroboost, 2.5in OME lift, 31x10.50's---the daily driver

    99 Jeep WJ Grand Cherokee limited, 4.0L, auto, 2wd, leather and power everything, 99% stock---the long distance highway ride.

  7. #7
    Vintage Methane Ejector
    Join Date
    Apr 2011
    Posts
    194
    Quote Originally Posted by EagleMark View Post
    So when is the DIS hac coming out for V8?
    LOL, way over my head.


    A13 is the A/C high Pressure Switch
    E7 is AIR Bypass Control
    I'm still uncertain about whether B7 can be used for the underhood ESC.

    I'd bet on B11 or B14 being VATS.
    Last edited by 93V8S10; 02-15-2012 at 03:30 AM.

  8. #8
    Fuel Injected! one92rs's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2011
    Posts
    173
    now the vats deal would be cool. since i have it in a 92 camaro it would be cool to have it wired up as well.

  9. #9
    Fuel Injected!
    Join Date
    Mar 2012
    Posts
    59
    We should update the GIF on the front page to t he revised version found here: http://www.thirdgen.org/techboard/po...82-post40.html

    Notably, the P/N switch is updated. I've been beating my head against a wall because my IAC isn't working right. Because I don't have the wire hooked up, because it was not on the sheet. It was not grounded so it thought it was in drive and would not do the pintle thing.

  10. #10
    RIP EagleMark's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2011
    Location
    North Idaho
    Age
    64
    Posts
    10,477
    Thank you and done!

    1990 Chevy Suburban 5.7L Auto ECM 1227747 $42!
    1998 Chevy Silverado 5.7L Vortec 0411 Swap to RoadRunner!
    -= =-

  11. #11
    Administrator
    Join Date
    May 2011
    Location
    Lakes Region, NH
    Age
    54
    Posts
    3,867
    I have checked the pinout on the first page and cross checked factory pinouts from C/K and S/T vehicles using the same PCM family with manual transmissions. I see no park/neutral switch input or grounded signal wire listed in the OEM diagrams. Also, the two factory diagrams I have show both VSS and trans speed signals connected to the pcm in manual trans applications.

    Does anyone have confirmation of P/N input on E5, or of the results of not including the VSS / trans speed signal on F13?
    Thanks
    Last edited by 1project2many; 08-13-2012 at 07:04 AM.

  12. #12
    Administrator
    Join Date
    May 2011
    Location
    Lakes Region, NH
    Age
    54
    Posts
    3,867
    Very interesting that GM found ASDF to produce cleaner emissions in the S10. In some masks ASDF is a function of IPW to prevent commanded on times less than injector is capable of and is implemented without 1X signal. In these cases ASDF is not implemented during most operating conditions. It's noteworthy that GM resorted to hardware solution in 7427. I'd love to have more time to investigate the hardware relationship between the 1X input pin, memcal configuration, and limp mode fueling.

    The list of unused pins has been pretty consistent in all of the models I've looked at. A11,A13, B6,B7, B11, B14, E7, F4,F5. Checking multpile vehicles to see if this list can be shortened might be a worthwhile approach.

  13. #13
    Fuel Injected! TheApocalyptican's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2012
    Location
    Las Vegas
    Age
    37
    Posts
    74
    I am planning on switching from the 7747 to the 7427. Need to the get the PCM itself tho, and since I have a V8, do I need a 7427 from a V8, or will the V6 version work too?
    '90 Suburban w/ pretty much stock 350 TBI, 7427 ECM Conversion, sadly sold several years ago
    '95 K2500 Suburban w/ soon to be 400HP 454

  14. #14
    Super Moderator dave w's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2011
    Posts
    6,344
    Quote Originally Posted by TheApocalyptican View Post
    I am planning on switching from the 7747 to the 7427. Need to the get the PCM itself tho, and since I have a V8, do I need a 7427 from a V8, or will the V6 version work too?
    I've never tried using a V6 Memcal for a V8 engine. I've done several '7427 conversions, all V8 engines and all had V8 Memcals.

    dave w

  15. #15
    Electronic Ignition!
    Join Date
    Mar 2012
    Location
    Connecticut
    Posts
    11
    For those interested I have both the DRAC and VSSB. These little boxes convert a 40 pulse tone ring into the signal to for the PCM or ECM, and speedo. The VSSB has more outputs than the DRAC. Power, ground, and sensor inputs are the same. The PCM 427 with VSSB uses the RWAL singal (anti-lock brake signal), 40 PPR signal, and 2000 PPM signal. The VSSB also converts the 40 pulse tone ring signal to 2000 PPM for the Speedo. The DRAC is missing the 2000 PPM signal to PCM but because i am using a cable driven speedo i can use the 2000 PPM signal from the DRAC as the signal into the PCM by relocating one wire. With the correct diagrams and much research they can be used interchangebly.

    As a side note from another question long ago in this thread the VATS pin is pin B7. There is no wire in that location but it is +5 volts and when pulled low at 30Hz the PCM will allow engine start. So enable VATS and use pin B7. I have tested it and activtly using it in my conversion.

Similar Threads

  1. '71 Chev pick up 4L60E swap.
    By Six_Shooter in forum Gear Heads
    Replies: 13
    Last Post: 12-13-2013, 05:28 AM
  2. 1962 Suburban Engine and EFI swap.
    By Six_Shooter in forum Gear Heads
    Replies: 9
    Last Post: 10-25-2011, 01:15 PM
  3. Lucky's '96 Mustang DOHC Swap
    By Lucky in forum Gear Heads
    Replies: 19
    Last Post: 06-12-2011, 11:47 PM
  4. Fuel Pump Relay Wiring
    By EagleMark in forum GM EFI Systems
    Replies: 3
    Last Post: 06-05-2011, 08:52 AM

Tags for this Thread

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •