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  1. #1
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    is it possible I cannot disable checksum in the $88 mask?


    grtz, D

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    Hello

    Mask problem is solved.... Was a bit stupid thow....
    Was no present in the XDF, but I heard it was the 9th byte
    Got the value of 141 for the mask, so I thought I had to look in another byte...

    After some hours of searching, suddenly realized... => 141 = 88HEX STUPID of me....

    Next problem....
    Been searching and reading on the internet, but cannot find it, nor figure it out...
    Want to compare the fuel tables against the AFR ratio, so I can adjust the injector opening times.....
    Because of the 3.4 with the larger injectors, the ECM has to adjust too much, and because of that, most of the time the engine runs too rich.

    anyone who can set me on the right track here?

    grtz, D

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    Hi,
    You should probably start with copying injector flow, offset and short pulse compensation tables from stock 3.4 bin. Tuning injectors with measured AFR is not the best way...

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    Hello

    problem is actually that I cannot find the injector pulse tables at first sight in the XDF file I have.......

    can I assume that all the bin files for the different engines that use the 1227730 ECU have them on the same location in the memory chip?

    grtz, D

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    Hello

    Is there someone who can set me on the right track.....

    I was expecting to simply find a table map/RPM/injector time and TPS/RPM/injector time, like on a lot of other programs I worked with....

    Seems like this setup is using volumetric efficiency, to determine the volume of air in the cilinders, and calculate how much fuel must be added....
    I already found the value for the flow rate of the injectors
    I am probable looking wrong, but for now I am searching for a value to change the volume of each cilinder (for the bigger engine: 3.1 => 3.4 )

    I presume If that is adjusted, I will need to change the VE values, until the desired AFR is reached without adjustments of the ECM

    Is that correct?

    grtz, D

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    hello

    maybe I was a little bit too fast with my prevoius questions ...

    Done a lot of reading here on the forum and elsewhere on the internet, and I think I am a step further now....

    For the moment, I am still using te AZTY bin from gearefi, together with the 88 mask complete 1.01 from Robert Saar, and the 88ADX.

    Entered the correct flowrate of the injectors in the bin (18 lb/hr) (KDISFS).
    The flowrate for Alpha-N seems not possible to be changed, but I guess that is not an issue for now.. (It resets every time to 0.16)

    Made some historytables (BLM vs RPM vs MAP)
    After running some log files, notice that the BLM is somewhere between 100 and 110, but it changes a lot...

    Could this be by the bigger volume of the engine?

    What value should I opprox add to the VE table for lets say each value of 5 that is short in the BLM?

    grtz, D

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    Hello

    Got the fuel ok by now bit by bit...
    First the low throttle, now started to the higher throttle...
    Almost all the BLM's between 126 and 130....

    Noticed that when I go full throttle, the ecm goes into open loop....
    Could someone tell me if it is possible to add conditions to the history tables....
    That way, I could ignore the values when goes out of closed loop.....

    Searched for it on this forum and on the internet, but didn't find any of this.....

    And one more question, but the car did this since I got it... (even with the 3.1 engine)
    When the engine is hot, it somethimes struggle to get it started....
    Seems like I hear a little 'ping' sometimes too....
    Advance is pre-set to 10°, starter engine is new, and also the cable from the battery to the starter is new..
    Battery is good.
    Only this that stays the same is the distributor... (cap and rotor is new, cables and plugs also new)
    So I guess I could narrow it to the ignition module....
    Could this be faulty? What should be the other symptoms then?

    grtz, D

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