Swap: 5.7 TBI -> Vortec heads EFI -> 0411 pcm with roadrunner from moates.net-HELP!!!

[ScottP]

The 411 PCM (along with many others as well) support commands from the scantool to the PCM. A crank relearn
is an example of one of these commands (also sometimes called 2-way controls). Others that are supported by
EFILive and HPTuners include:

Turning on and off cooling fans, check engine light, ignition coils and injectors
Commanding the engine to a fixed idle speed or IAC position
Commanding the engine to a fixed spark advance or air fuel ratio
Commanding the transmission to a specific gear or line pressure
Locking and unlocking the torque converter

These controls can be very helpful when tuning and troubleshooting a new setup.
I use HPTuners for this capability, as well as for my primary scantool.

-Scott

[Aksl]

Thank you very much for sharing Scott, well i have a friend that has the Tech2 scan tool, he bought it through Aliexpress, he uses that scan, and i used to borow it of him, before i started this project. I think it can do all that, plus to all, the cost of it was something like 120$.

[Hog]

2 way controls are better known as Bi-Directional control. Since the engine, trans and Antilock Braking System(ABS) are controlled by the same controller, its called a VCM(Vehicle Control Module). As such if you have a Scan Tool, such as your friends Tech 2, you can do work on your brake system, then use the scan tool to activate the ABS motor in order to clear it of air.
You can activate any electric or aux fans to ensure they are wired correctly
You can engage and lock an electric trans in any gear you wish, as well as toggle the TCC(torque Converter Clutch)

And perform a CASE relearn (CASE=Crankshaft Angle Sensor Error) CASE relearns allow the VCM to accurately detect misfires after a new engine, different crank, new crank reluctor are installed into the truck.

Is there no way to tune with EFILive without buying the V9? I thought you could use a V7 or something like that and only need the V9 for the ability to flash a PCM?

Are you sure that they weren't asking for the number of your Roadrunner so that you could apply the EFILive/Roadrunner license?

peace
Hog

[Aksl]

Hello Hog,

Yes I`m positive about that, aswell on the official EFILive website of the RoadRunner Realtime License, you have two rows to fill in, marked with a star *, meaning that must fill in, where one is *FlashScan Serial Number and the second one is *RoadRunner Serial Number. so if i just fill in Roadrunner serial number, the EFILive asks me to fill in the *FlashScan Serial Number, which i don`t have. So i thought ok, may be buying through moates.net, i can escape that,but NO.(((
correspondence with moates about EFILive order.jpg
EFILive attemp to buy.PNG

[Aksl]

Ok guys, if you can help me now, i have got to start my swap soon, and want to get ready for it! In order to do that, i would like to make a step by step instructions on what i will have to do. Now i have on hands a 4L60E transmission, that if i install before the swap, will not work, since in my blackbox i have a tune for a manual transmission, since i have a 700R4 installed. and i have my 0411 PCM with Roadrunner, to make the PCM swap, and TunnerCat RT soft license and software, but when i just try to start it, it gives me an error unable to locate any Diffinition files (i guess it needs the Roadrunner connected via usb cable to work). And i have downloaded the "2002 Chevrolet Express Van Automatic L31 5.7L 4L60e 4wd (12212156)" tune. Now i have to figure out how, and what to do first, where to start, and step by steb to the finish line.

- What do you guys sugest?

- And if i make my pin swap, from blackbox to 0411, and connect my roadrunner installed in it via usb cable, will i be able by the usb, using tunercat RT, load the tune in the 0411 and start working on it?

- Or may be i shall find a donner truck with 0411 installed, and ask the owner to use it, in order to connect my 0411 with the roadrunner installed, to load the tune, and make changes, and then take it off and make my swap (basically use someones track as abench)...?

Thank you in advance!

[Aksl]

Ok, Stupid me, i did not get the Definition File, from moates, normaly the license for 225$ includes one vdf, i have to apply to moates for it i guess.. But i have to figure out wich vdf i need. As Lextech has writen in his article, i need a "2002 Express Van (OS 12212156)", but i am not sure which it is from this list here, that is at moates.net:

Vehicle Definition
File P/N
Supported Vehicles

Trucks

OBD2_07

1996 – 97 Vortec Trucks (4.3L, 5.0L,
5.7L, 7.4L)


OBD2_06

1998 – 00 Vortec Trucks (4.3L, 5.0L,
5.7L, 7.4L)


OBD2_19
1999 –
00 Medium Duty Trucks (7.4L MFI Gas)


OBD2_03
2001 –
02 LS1 Trucks (4.3L, 4.8L, 5.3L, 6.0L, 8.1L)


OBD2_04
2003 –
05 LS1 Trucks (4.3L, 4.8L, 5.3L, 6.0L, 8.1L)


OBD2_14
2006
– 07* LS1 Trucks (4.3L, 4.8L, 5.3L, 6.0L, 8.1L)

(*only 2007 trucks with old style
PCM are supported)

OBD2_29
2002
– 05 L6 4.2L Trailblazer, Envoy, Bravada

OBD2_50
2007
– 08 V8 Trucks & SUVs (CAN Bus E38 ECM)

OBD2_51
2009
– 12 V8 Trucks & SUVs (CAN Bus E38 ECM except 2011-12 L96 6.0L
Heavy Duty Trucks)

OBD2_52
2007
– 12 V6 4.3L Trucks & SUVs (CAN Bus E37 ECM)

OBD2_59
2008 – 2009 Cadillac SRX 4.6L
2008 – 2012 Chevy Colorado 2.9L,
3.7L and 5.3L
2008 – 2009 Chevy Trailblazer, SS
4.2L, 5.3L and 6.0L
2008 – 2012 GMC Canyon 2.9L, 3.7L
and 5.3L
2008 – 2009 GMC Envoy 4.2L, 5.3L

2008 – 2010 Hummer H3, H3T 3.7L and 5.3L
V8 Cars
OBD2_08
1996 –
97 LT1 Corvette, Camaro, Firebird, Impala

OBD2_09 1997
– 98 LS1 Corvette, Camaro, Firebird
OBD2_01
1999
– 01 LS1 Corvette, Camaro, Firebird

1999 – 2001 Holden
OBD2_05
2002 –
03 LS1 Corvette, Camaro, Firebird


OBD2_20
2002 –
2004 Holden


OBD2_10
2004
LS1 Corvette

OBD2_12 2004
GTO
OBD2_13 2004 – 05 Cadillac CTS-V

OBD2_53
2010
– 12 V8 Camaro / 2009 – 2011 Corvette (except 2011 ZR1)
OBD2_55 2006 – 08 Corvette
OBD2_56 2008 – 09 Pontiac G8 V8
V6 Cars
OBD2_15 1996 Camaro/Firebird
V6
OBD2_16 1997 Camaro/Firebird
V6
OBD2_17 1998 – 1999 Camaro/Firebird
V6
OBD2_18 2000 – 2002 Camaro/Firebird
V6
OBD2_23 1996 V6
Chevy*/Buick/Pontiac* 3.1, 3.4, 3.8L (*except
Camaro/Firebird)
OBD2_24 1997 V6
Chevy*/Buick/Pontiac* 3.1, 3.4, 3.8L (*except
Camaro/Firebird)
OBD2_25 1998 – 1999 V6
Chevy*/Buick/Pontiac* 3.1, 3.4, 3.8L (*except
Camaro/Firebird)
OBD2_26 2000 – 2001 V6
Chevy*/Buick/Pontiac* 3.1, 3.4, 3.8L (*except
Camaro/Firebird)
OBD2_27 2002 – 2003 V6
Chevy*/Buick/Pontiac* 3.1, 3.4, 3.8L (*except
Camaro/Firebird)
OBD2_28 2004 – 2005 V6
Chevy/Buick/Pontiac* 3.1, 3.4, 3.8L (*2004/05 Grand Prix
not
supported)
Transmissions
OBD2_60 2007 – 2012 T42 Transmission
Controller – 4 speed Automatic
OBD2_61 2007 – 2012 T43 Transmission
Controller – 6 speed Automatic

And don`t know if the license will include the transmission or not..