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    Thanks Dave!
    Studying how to do various things. And yes, that .bin does not show up anywhere.
    I do have a '7427 with a BJLH (stock) .bin from a 1994 and the $OD mask.

    Thinking about putting it in there and leaving it in there since the $OD mask seems more popular. < thoughts?

    Will study you timing suggestions when at lunch today or when I get off work. Thank You!
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    Also on the knock retard, I found where that the log may have been reading voltage and not actual retard. Changed that to read actual degree according to the .adx file I am using for the next time I try to log.
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    Link to a gearhead-efi thread with the 1998 Vortec timing table copy / pasted into an Excel Spreadsheet: http://www.gearhead-efi.com/Fuel-Inj...-Throttle-ONLY

    Disclaimer . . . Informational use only

    To much timing = not a good thing

    Not enough timing = not a good thing

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    Quote Originally Posted by dave w View Post
    Link to a gearhead-efi thread with the 1998 Vortec timing table copy / pasted into an Excel Spreadsheet: http://www.gearhead-efi.com/Fuel-Inj...-Throttle-ONLY

    Disclaimer . . . Informational use only

    To much timing = not a good thing

    Not enough timing = not a good thing

    dave w
    Thanks Dave W for the bump in the correct direction.
    Was studying this and working on a updated file to burn and found out my Burn2 was not working correctly.
    1st would not erase the supplied chip, thus would not write the new file and confirm. Ughh!
    Also noted that the two Memcals that I have for the 7427 $OD mask appear to not be reading correctly. The main spark vs. MAP vs. RPM were showing 79.8 degrees timing from 3200 rpm up, which I do not think would be correct based on downloads from this forum.
    Also many scalars were maxed out on a unmolested .bin that should not have been such as EGR settings.

    Have messaged Moates to see if there is a solution to my issue with the Burn2.
    Meanwhile the Sub is in limbo until I can burn chips.

    Thanks Dave W. for the help!
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    Possibly the Burn 2 chip addressing and buffer addressing is not correct? Example below if for the '9625 64K 27SF512 PCM.

    Chip Addressing
    Start Address in Hex = 000000
    End Addressing in Hex = 00FFFF

    Buffer Addressing
    Start Address in Hex = 000000
    End Addressing in Hex = 00FFFF

    It's embarrassing to ask:
    Is the chip correctly installed in the Burn 2.
    Is the correct chip selected to read / write / erase?

    dave w

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    Quote Originally Posted by dave w View Post
    Possibly the Burn 2 chip addressing and buffer addressing is not correct? Example below if for the '9625 64K 27SF512 PCM.

    Chip Addressing
    Start Address in Hex = 000000
    End Addressing in Hex = 00FFFF

    Buffer Addressing
    Start Address in Hex = 000000
    End Addressing in Hex = 00FFFF

    It's embarrassing to ask:
    Is the chip correctly installed in the Burn 2.
    Is the correct chip selected to read / write / erase?

    dave w
    Morning Dave!
    The addressing is correct for the chips. Have tripled checked that as it was my first error when trying to read the memcals when If first received the Burn2

    The chips are the SST 27SF512's that Moates sent me with my order. The chips are set away from the zif handle as outlined in the instructions.
    Tried both chips.
    When Erase is selected is shows successful really quick.
    When verify chip empty it takes a few seconds then tells me the chip is not empty.

    Isn't learning fun?

    On another note, I may have figured out part of my problem outside of the tune. With my modified distributor, it is possible when I locked the advance I got the rotor out of phase with the stator. Will have to research that this evening.

    Thanks, Louis
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    Tech Support at Moates is 1st Class.
    poked and prodded a bit with Team Viewer, changed some firmware settings and bingo. Working as advertised now.
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