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    Basic information to help with diagnosis:

    The ignition module will fire the coil without a working ECM. Checking for spark while cranking only tells you the coil and pickup coil is working and that the ignition module is partly working.
    The ignition module will send a pulse to the ECM for each spark made at the coil.
    The ECM will use pulses from the coil to fire fuel injectors.
    If you install a noid light at the injector and spark tester on the coil wire you should see noid light blink when spark tester sparks. The "netres" or backup fuel hardware will make this happen even if the calibration in the eprom is bad.

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    Sorry for the delayed response guys... been very busy with work.

    so after cleaning the fuel system and having the tank re-lined i now have fuel to the injectors, and i also have spark as well.
    The engine will try to start, but instantly stalls. It will try to stay running if i pump the throttle, but it acts like (in my personal opinion) it is not getting enough fuel.
    I jumped the starter solenoid to watch the injectors and they have a constant spray.

    I have replaced the IAC valve, Coolant temp sensor, TPS, and MAP sensor before the truck started giving me issues. So i have not reason to believe that any of that is the cause.

    No codes are being thrown, and i cannot get any useful data from the live reading from my laptop.

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    I am going to ask / throw a curve ball idea or question.

    I remember in the late 80's and early 90's, EFI used the Oil pressure sending unit as a fuel pump shut off. When to truck was started the oil pressure sensor was bypassed for x amount of time. Then when started the oil pressure would tell the computer to keep the power to the fuel pump on.

    So I am wondering if, the truck starting and then stalling could be an issue with oil pressure sensor and or wiring.

    If the Kodiak, ran this style fuel pump control set up.

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    Do you have the correct fuel pressure and volume? Is the ignition timing set properly?

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    So i finally found the last piece of this nightmare... as stated above i didnt have either of the correct fuel pressure or volume. APPARENTLY O'reillys sold me the fuel pump for the
    passenger side instead of the driver side... the right pump is out of stock through them, but autozone actually had the right pump. I slapped it in there and BAM she started up just fine! After a little fidgeting with the timing she runs like a top!

    The part number for the pump O'reillys sales is "E16031" that is for the passenger tank and the output is apparently 3PSI and 15GPH..

    The correct pump is a Delphi "CFE0112" rated at 30-40 PSI and 36GPH.

    Boy has this surely been a ride, but i hope my mistakes, both costly and frustrating will be of great help to others in the future!

    -Cookie70

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    Interesting, looks like the passenger pump is used to transfer fuel to the driver's side tank? I couldn't find any info for fuel or ignition specs for this. Glad you figured it out.

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