LS computer ('0411) running a Small Block Chevy

[dave w]

guess i need to pay attention as how you are doing this. i have a friend with hptuners and is good with it. i would love to have the coils and a ls pcm running my small block.

I am using the 4 tooth (low resolution) trigger wheel. To use coils, the 24 tooth (high resolution) trigger wheel is required. Basically, the EFI Connection 24x system is a good option to do coils. Maybe in the future, I'll design a bolt on high resolution system.

dave w

[1project2many]

The downside to the Vortec PCM (very abundant / cheap) is the lack of software!!!

Really???

Weren't people buying Tunercat's OBDII Winflash for doing OBDII uploads/downloads? There's a nice disassembly of a black box Vortec cal on thirdgen.

[dave w]

Really???

Weren't people buying Tunercat's OBDII Winflash for doing OBDII uploads/downloads? There's a nice disassembly of a black box Vortec cal on thirdgen.

From the TunerCat's website,

C.A.T.S is pleased to announce that Jet Performance Products has licensed our OBDII Tuner program and as of April 25th 2006 will the exclusive distributor for the software under the product name JET Dynamic Spectrum Tuner.

From the Jet Website:

	Dynamic Spectrum Tuning: JET offers a wide range of Dynamic Spectrum Tuners for your vehicle. For more information about our selection of Dynamic Spectrum Tuners click here. DYNAMIC SPECTRUM TUNERS - Designed for the performance enthusiast who wants total control of their vehicle's programming, the JET Dynamic Spectrum Tuner is a powerful tuning package. JET’s DST software provides you with the tools needed for precise performance tuning using your laptop or PC. Use of this software will give you the ability to modify virtually every aspect of the vehicle’s programming. Stock programming from the vehicle is initially downloaded and saved to your PC using the supplied JET interface cable that connects to the vehicle’s diagnostic port. The stock programming can be reloaded to the computer at any time to return the vehicle’s ECU to its original state. The comprehensive, easy to use software allows extensive modification to the vehicle’s software. This allows control of fuel and spark tables, speed and rev limiters, transmission functions, torque management tables and many other functions. Modifications are made using detailed table and graph views for easy and accurate parameter editing. Your modifications are saved as a new file and downloaded to the vehicle’s computer. DST Gas Part # 14005 Programming Options Include: Fuel parameters including power enrichment and volumetric efficiency Ignition tables including spark advance versus load, knock retard and more Transmission shift points, shift pressures, and TCC apply and release Diagnostic tables including fuel and air, ignition and emissions controls Speed calibration tables to correct speedometer and shift points Idle controls, fan temperature settings and torque management tables Raise or lower speed and rev limiters Disable factory diagnostic trouble codes To see all of the available features please try our full demo version! DST part number 14005 will program the following vehicles: 1996-2000 GM Trucks & SUV's with Vortec 4.3, 5.0, 5.7 & 7.4L 1999-2006 GM LS1 Trucks & SUV's with 4.3, 4.8, 5.3, 6.0 & 8.1L 2002-2005 GM/Chevy Envoy & Trailblazer 4.2L 2002-2004 Oldsmobile Bravada 4.2L 2007 Sierra/Silverado Classic w/ LS1 4.3, 4.8, 5.3 & 6.0L 1996-1997 Camaro, Firebird, Corvette & Impala SS LT-1 1997-2004 Camaro, Firebird & Corvette LS-1 1998-2002 Camaro, Firebird 3.8L 2004 GTO LS1 2004-2005 Cadillac CTS-V DST part # 14005 will allow you to program 4 different vehicles from the list above. Licenses to program additional vehicles can be obtained from JET directly for $100.00 per vehicle. To obtain additional licenses call 800-535-1161. Click Here to Download the Free Gas Demo Version New! DST Gas version 1.50 is now available. Contains support for several 1998-2005 GM passenger cars. Check application listings for your vehicle. Download the update from the products section on the homepage or click here to download now. DST Diesel Part # 14006 Programming Options Include: Fuel tables and boost parameters for improved performance and mileage Correct speedometer after making gear ratio or tire size changes Modify top speed limiter and engine rev limiter settings Glow plug settings for improved cold starting in cold weather Disable factory diagnostic trouble codes Injection timing and rail pressure settings Torque management and abuse mode parameters To see all of the available features please try our full demo version! DST part #14006 will program the following vehicles: 2001-2005 GM Duramax 6.6L LB7 & LLY Diesel Trucks DST part # 14006 will allow you to program 4 different vehicles. Licenses to program additional vehicles can be obtained from JET directly for $100.00 per vehicle. To obtain additional licenses call 800-535-1161. Click Here to Download the Free Diesel Demo Version Minimum PC requirements: While the DST program will run on virtually any PC running Windows 95 or later, we recommend the following minimum PC specifications: Pentium 266 Windows 98 64 MB RAM 800 x 600 display resolution 20 MB free hard drive space 9 pin serial connector or 9 pin USB to serial adapter compatible with your operating system

dave w

[1project2many]

Right! I've had the OBDII tuner since shortly after it was released and I've always had mixed feelings about the JET sale. But that's the tuner. The flash uploader is a separate program and runs separately.

Oh nevermind. TC has removed winflash OBDII from the list of available programs. That's too bad.

[EagleMark]

Yup the only way to get it now is if you buy a RoadRunner from Moates, guess they had rights to sell TC OBDII before horible decision to sell to Jet.

I have Winflash for my OBDI LT1. Need a good software hacker?

[JeepsAndGuns]

Would there be any reason or benifit to those black box vortec pcm's Vs's the 7427 running mpfi?
The local pull a part is chock full of those black boxes.

[dave w]

Would there be any reason or benifit to those black box vortec pcm's Vs's the 7427 running mpfi?
The local pull a part is chock full of those black boxes.

At this point in time, I see no benifit to the Black Box Vortec PCM. There are several original equipment Black Box vehicles, that have been updated to the LS PCM. It's my understanding the tuning software for the LS PCM is better developed, and the LS PCM is a better computer.

dave w

[EagleMark]

Right! I've had the OBDII tuner since shortly after it was released and I've always had mixed feelings about the JET sale. But that's the tuner. The flash uploader is a separate program and runs separately.

Oh nevermind. TC has removed winflash OBDII from the list of available programs. That's too bad.

Well it's still availble on Moates site... but I think you need to Buy a RoadRunner to get it? Maybe not? $280 for software and cables...
http://www.moates.net/winflash-tuner...ml?cPath=67_55

[1project2many]

$200 is the cost of a new CAN bus cable
$80 is the cost of one definition file.
I wonder if we can guess how he's selling it. :)
I'd contact Craig before it's gone.

[EagleMark]

It was licensed to sell with RoadRunner only. You can buy all TunerCat OBDII still if you buy a RoadRunner. $599 for RoadRunner, $280 for Winflash and cable, $225 for TunerCat OBDII with one def $1750 with all defs, then you still have no data logger, EFI Live FlashScan data logger only $499. So $1600 to start for one car and $80 for each additional def. Maybe cheaper if there was a differant Data logger for OBDII... but cost of EFI live is high but good software but $125 per car license before you can tune?

So when will TunerPro go OBDII? I'd rather pay for it!