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    I'm new to this and still reading/catching up.

    so I missed the boat on moates (I mean it makes sense that dude is tired and wanted to retire...could have at least sold the company) but you took up the mantle so yay!

    do you have an ostrich equivalent? at least I think thats what I want?

    ostrich you just plug into the soldered ecu socket on the 7747 memcal slot and live tune your data. then once happy, you download it, unhook the ostrich....burn with a burn2 to the chip that you then toss into your chipped ecu? yeah. sounds about right...or horribly wrong haha

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    Quote Originally Posted by stackz View Post
    I'm new to this and still reading/catching up.

    so I missed the boat on moates (I mean it makes sense that dude is tired and wanted to retire...could have at least sold the company) but you took up the mantle so yay!

    do you have an ostrich equivalent? at least I think thats what I want?

    ostrich you just plug into the soldered ecu socket on the 7747 memcal slot and live tune your data. then once happy, you download it, unhook the ostrich....burn with a burn2 to the chip that you then toss into your chipped ecu? yeah. sounds about right...or horribly wrong haha
    You got it, that's exactly what happens. Ostrich is what's known as an "EPROM emulator," in that it is able to pretend to be a standard EPROM chip, but one that is able to change the values it has in memory on the fly, allowing for real-time tuning of EPROM-based computers. Once you have the tune the way you like it, then you burn the appropriate chip for your ECM and install it and off you go. That's exactly what I did with my '90 Corvette.

    Note however that the '7747 requires two things that are a little special. For one, to use an Ostrich or other 27C256-alike EPROM emulator, you need what Moates referred to as a "Socket Booster." This is because the pin count is different between the Ostrich, which is designed to emulate a 27C256, which is a 28-pin chip, and the 2732A in a '7747, which is a 24-pin chip.

    And as you may have guessed already, it also means you need a handful of 2732A EPROM chips to do that final burn once you're satisfied. Unfortunately they're a bit harder to come by than the 27C256.

    Now, as for the Ostrich replacement, BoostedNW seems to have one available for preorder: https://boostednw.com/emulation/boos...ltime-emulator

    Unfortunately it does not look like they have a Socket Booster replacement available at this time. That said, they do have a G2 equivalent, which does allow connecting 28-pin chips/emulators to a 2732A socket like on the '7747: https://boostednw.com/chips-and-adpt...er-replacement

    Getting that adapter would allow you to use much more modern and readily-available 28-pin EPROM and EEPROM chips as well.

    Best of luck in your search.



    EDIT: For BoostedNW, once you've cut your teeth on figuring out the magic behind an EPROM Emulator, any chance you'd be willing to try your hand at making a replacement for the GM NVRAM and NVSRAM boards?

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    While being able to use my Ostrich in my '730 has been great, I gotta admit it would be spectacular to be able to do it through my ALDL port like I do for my '94-'95 Corvette and leave the ECM nice and sealed in the engine bay.
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    I just paid for the already adapted 7747 ecu from the guy in the 454 for sale thread on here so I think I'm ostrich ready? well, once that ecu gets to me that is hah.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stackz View Post
    I just paid for the already adapted 7747 ecu from the guy in the 454 for sale thread on here so I think I'm ostrich ready? well, once that ecu gets to me that is hah.
    Oh, just saw that. Then yes, since it's already adapted to use a 27C512, an Ostrich or similar emulator will work on it just fine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NomakeWan View Post

    Unfortunately it does not look like they have a Socket Booster replacement available at this time.
    Working on this as well


    Quote Originally Posted by NomakeWan View Post
    EDIT: For BoostedNW, once you've cut your teeth on figuring out the magic behind an EPROM Emulator, any chance you'd be willing to try your hand at making a replacement for the GM NVRAM and NVSRAM boards?

    Sure thing, we're open to re creating whatever is still in need so we are open to suggestions!
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    Quote Originally Posted by jlowens76 View Post
    Working on this as well
    Sure thing, we're open to re creating whatever is still in need so we are open to suggestions!
    Woohoo and a party! That's super exciting stuff. Even before Moates closed their doors they had stopped selling NVRAM/NVSRAM stuff, so having another domestic provider would be siiiiick. I'd even nab one for my '90!
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    Will your emulator work out of the box with TunerPro RT? I had the cash ready to buy an Ostrich right as they were discontinued, boo. It's nice to see somebody making these tools available.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mihela View Post
    Will your emulator work out of the box with TunerPro RT? I had the cash ready to buy an Ostrich right as they were discontinued, boo. It's nice to see somebody making these tools available.
    Yes it will, we worked to get our burner integrated into TunerPRO RT and will do the same with the emulator!
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    Any plans to expand into Ford EEC-IV products?

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    Quote Originally Posted by stackz View Post

    do you have an ostrich equivalent?

    Soon! trying our best to get everything ASAP and get to market like we did with the Burner and ALDL, etc

    and Yes you should be able to use an ostrich2/equivalent emulator with that ECM after doing the things NomakeWan described above
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